"Golf is the closest game to the game we call life.
You get bad breaks from good shots; you get good breaks from bad shots
– but you have to play the ball where it lies." - Bobby Jones
2022 General Meeting Minutes
Meeting Began @ 1:30 pm, Thursday 11/14/22 @ Alta Vista CC
I. Board Voted on by acclamation and was passed.
- Ray Sandoval - Chairman/Tournament Director
- Ed Ornelas - Rules and Competition Chairman
- Chris Bunn - Handicap Chairman
- Kevin Finney - Tournament Day Director
- Greg Gomez - Tournament Day Director
II. Old Business- Motion/Seconded/Passed
III. Old Business
A. Items decided on at last General Meeting in 2021
1. We will not have flights playing from different tees in regular low net tournaments. All flights
will play from the same tees as a rule unless the Tournament Committee deems it necessary or
the format calls for it.
2. Circle Hole is shortest Par 3 on the course and was
moved from landing 6 feet from the hole to 3 feet.
3. Implemented the Net Par 3 and Par 5 pools.
4. Clipboards given to the passenger so they can write the score and driver of the cart can just
focus on getting to the next tee.
5. Club Membership fee was raised in the first time in 10 years from $56 to $75. SCGA receives
$36 club receives $39.
6. Moved May tournament from Temecula to Palm Springs
7. Knuth will stay in place.
III. New Business
1. Membership
a. At current moment we have 66 members.
New members added this year:
Joe Ryan - Hawthorne, CA
Gilbert Eurasquin - Lake Elsinore, CA
Charles Smith - La Canada, CA
Rolf Caputo - Encino, CA
Mike Nash- Torrance, CA
Henry Journigan – Torrance, CA
Jeff Sobieraj – Laguna Niguel, CA
2. Members with 10 Years or more of Membership:
SINCE 2003 - Bob Joseph - Inglewood, CA
SINCE 2006 - Ted Sonju - Cypress, CA
SINCE 2008 - Billy Johnson - Los Angeles, CA, Marc Sandoval - Harbor City, CA
SINCE 2009 - John Nering - Artesia, CA
SINCE 2010 - Kevin Finney - Redondo Beach, CA
SINCE 2011 - Billy Proctor - Los Angeles, CA, Bob DeLand - Redondo Beach, CA
SINCE 2012 - George Ortega - Torrance, CA, Craig Conant - Torrance, CA
3. Tournament Schedule for rest of the year and 2023. TBD means not set in stone.
Dec 12/12/22 – Los Coyotes $125 includes golf, ½
cart, range balls, wager fee and all you can eat luncheon and libations at Kevin and Lucia’s house right
on the golf course after the tournament.
Jan 2023 – Anaheim Hills
Feb – El Dorado
March – Meadowlark
April - California CC
May – Goose Creek (TBD)
May – Palm Springs Jim Detoskey 3 day (TBD)
June – Brookside (TBD)
July – Los Robles (TBD)
August – Western Hills CC (TBD)
Sept (TBD)
October – Ray Sandoval Memorial Solvang (TBD)
November – Alta Vista (TBD)
December – (TBD)
4. Cost of Tournaments – Tournaments are going up in price:
a. To play golf in general the price has gone up.
b. Courses are putting a premium on scheduling tournaments i.e. shotguns are not an option anymore
unless we play a private course. On public course shotguns pay ultra premium price. $10 bump
c. Courses are no longer offering a senior discount on tournaments.
d. Courses are charging extra to book consecutive tee times in a row.
e. Golf courses are charging a premium for early tee times with dynamic pricing.
f. Courses are continuing to raise the rate of carts and range balls as a way of getting around gouging golfers for green fees. Example Navy now charges $18 per person for a cart and many places charge $17
like all the Long Beach Courses. Range balls for a warm up bucket are up to $7 each.
Ways in which we are trying to save money on green fees
5. Suggestions
a. Look for courses that give us the best value for the price. Example of this is playing private courses
that might be a small percentage higher on green fees but throw in range balls, give us shotguns or
premium tee times. Instead of fighting with the public courses that might be less expensive on green
fees but when you throw in range balls and a shotgun or ask for consecutive early morning tee times the
price goes up. Plus the quality of golf courses at private clubs is just better.
b. Where range balls are not included buying three large buckets and splitting balls for all who want to
hit. Cheaper than purchasing 40 warm up buckets at $7 each.
c. If have to, book starts with later tee times.
d. Ignore the course and book independently online in order to get regular rates. Only drawback is that
tee times are harder to book consecutively and we might have the general public in between some
groups.
e. Continue to negotiate with local courses for better prices.
f. Play courses farther away that aren’t as busy to get better rates.
h. Piggyback a tournament with another club. More golfers at a venue usually helps cut prices but it also
makes for longer days.
i. Club supplement for Tournaments
IV. New Business from the floor
A. Greg Roberts – Discussion on returning Championship Chase back to match play.
1. Motion/Seconded/ Voted on: 10 yea - 17 no - Motion voted down
B. Ted Sonju - discuss moving Spring tournament back to Temecula or another venue. Discussion was made to
move the tournament up earlier in the month. Decided to try and move tournament up earlier and willing to
pay more.
C. Knuth change to remove Knuth system - Motion/Seconded/Voted - 2 yea / 25 no - Motion voted down
V. Adjournment